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Lex Luthor Cameo, Nazi Twist, No Superman explained

Spoiler alert: This story deals with major intrigue developments in season 2, episode 6 of “Peacemaker”, in difficulty currently on HBO Max.

In season 2 of “Peacemaker”, the hero holder of the butt-quater-Latéral shirt Christopher Smith (John Cena) was enchanted by an alternative universe in which he had never accidentally killed his older brother when they were children. On This The earth, Chris, his brother Keith, alias Captain Triumph (David Denman), and their father Auggie, alias Blue Dragon (Robert Patrick), are not only a happy family, but a trio of beloved superheroes. The alternative version of the love of Chris’s life, Emilia Harcourt (Jennifer Holland), is emotionally well adjusted and capable of maintaining a romantic relationship. Life seems so great on this Alt land, and Chris’s own life seems so terrible, that at the end of episode 5, he abandons his world and chooses to go to the alternative. (This helps that Chris has already killed his doppelgänger of the Alt earth in episode 1.)

And yet, for many viewers, something about this world has always felt … off – and not only because Cheerios is spelled Cheeri -Ohs. In episode 6, “ignorance is chris”, we finally learn just how Off, after Harcourt, Adebayo (Danielle Brooks), Vigilante (Freddie Stroma) and Economos (Steve Agee) – who are called children in the 11th street – all venture into Alt soil to convince their peacemaker to go home. (Because it is “peaceful”, on the way, they end up splashing with the hiding place of recovered smuggling vigilante.)

Once arrived, they separate quickly. Harcourt convinces Keith to take him to the siege of Argus, where on the way, she begins to notice that there is no one in color nowhere in town. Vigilante is delighted to find his doppelgänger of the Alt earth, which is exactly like him in all the imaginable ways except one: Alt-Vigilante calls Peacemaker his “enemine”. Meanwhile, Adebayo and Economos are behind in the Smith family complex without knowing anything about what to do, then Adebayo decides to explore the neighborhood. As she walks, people look at her in shock and disgust, until Keith goes, slams her breaks and screams: “One came out!” A black! ” Adebayo begins to run for his life while a crowd of Nazi Americans pursues her.

At the same time, Peacemaker – After he and Harcourt finally had a heart to heart in tears on their feelings for each other – throws the American flags more closely who line the offices of Alt -Argus at his horror, he discovers this, instead of the stars, there is a swastika. On this earth – which, as in the comics of DC, the creator of “Pacificer” and Co -chief of the DC studios, James Gunn, calls “Terre X” – Nazi Germany won the Second World War.

Gunn, who wrote and produced the episode, kept this twist so closely that he refused to send him to the press for an advice. But he did his own projections of private tests of season 2 to see if someone noticed that the earth X was only populated by whites before the great revelation of episode 6.

“No one noticed it at all,” he said Variety. “And they were also people of color, it was not only, you know, the whites.”

The Internet being the Internet, however, some fans had properly guessed that this twist arrived after sharing the observation of hacourt on the whiteness of the population – corresponding to the fact that on the main earth, Auggie was a virulent white supremacist known as the white dragon.

“It’s really difficult when you are online and a person on millions of people watching the show says:” Wait a second, here is a screenshot of what it is in the alternative world, and here is a screenshot of the actors of the background of the DCU “and you see the difference between them immediately,” he said. “Many people do not go online to talk about television. So I received a lot of comments from people who were freaking out. But many people knew it was going to happen.”

Gunn spoke with Variety Regarding the experience of filming this episode during the 2024 presidential election, why he brought Lex Luthor (Nicholas Hoult) on the show, why Superman will not join him and how Lex Camée connects to the feature film in 2027 “Superman: Man of Tomorrow”.

So the Nazis.

So, the Nazis!

Could you talk about how you decided to hide this kind of touch on sight? It seems that you wanted to put the public in the state of mind of Peacemaker?

Very plain view! You know, Peacemaker is not a villain. It is not racist, but it has this kind of narcissistic tendency to judge moments according to the way in which He is be treated and judged. He is able to go to this other planet and not notice at all: “Hey, wait a second …” I mean, you think were Blind so as not to have noticed it in a television program with 30 -second clips; He did not notice it by walking and driving that everyone was white. While Harcourt, which is more attentive to details, and probably more sensitive to this kind of thing anyway, notes the minute when it is in public. She looks around, said, “What is that?”

But part of this is WeYou know? Honest to God, I don’t think I would have noticed if I was in a bubble and not talk to people online on the show. And I think it’s something we can think of.

You said on the official “Peacemaker” podcast about this episode that the first scene outside the vigilante house was shot on Halloween in 2024. What was the presence in your mind the presidential election while you turned this episode and the episodes that are to come?

I turned the scene where cocaine splashes everyone in the morning after the presidential election. But when I write a program like this, I tell a story, above all. I never think, “Oh, I have to prove a point on something.” But without a doubt, there are things from our real world that influence what I write. Obviously, the situation of Adebayo at the end of the episode, from a point of view, is the most important thing. But in the end, the show concerns children in the 11th street and their relationships with each other and what they get from each other and how they change. The biggest scene in the show was probably the scene between Peacemaker and Harcourt in the interrogation room. In many ways, it is the heart of the show. It is not a question of earth X. This is them.

And people will also discover the next episode, that the earth X is not simplistic. If we were raised in the Nazi world and we accepted this as being OK, how do you think? We get a little more of this with specific specific characters.

Speaking of the next episode, Rick Flag Sr. (Frank Grillo) visits Lex Luthor in the prison of Belle Reve and concludes an agreement with him in exchange for aid in search of peace. Should we expect to see David Corenswet as the versions of Earth X or Terre 1 of Superman in the series?

No. In fact, David was very upset that Nick could have been in the series, and he did not do it. It just didn’t work. I needed Lex in the show to serve a specific objective. And in fact, what Lex and Rick Flag are up to the task affects a lot of what is happening in an aspect of “Man of Tomorrow”. So all of this is connected. But this relationship between Rick Flag and Lex Luthor is a potentially negative thing for Superman and all meta-humans.

You wrote this season while you were also working on “Superman”, so did you know where you already wanted to take Lex’s script for “Man of Tomorrow”?

Totally, yes. I did not know certain things about it, but I knew what was the global story of the DCU. It was something I launched [Warner Bros. Discovery CEO] David Zaslav before even taking the job. I’m like, here is the story. There will be this film, this program, this film, this program and these things all integrate in different ways. Some things came, like “Clayface”, that we did not expect, and others were a more difficult route to travel. But the general outline of this global story is what we follow “Superman”, “Peacemaker”, “Man of Tomorrow” and beyond.

How many land X will play a role in the DCU in the future?

Not much. It is not an important part of the narration. It’s about Peacemaker.

To return to my previous question, you have obviously written this program without knowing what would be the result of the presidential election. But how was it, knowing that this twist was going, and watching the edge of the real world closer to Earth X more than anyone would have planned it?

[Long pause] I think I don’t know how to answer the question. Obviously, there are a lot in the world of which I am not satisfied. I am not so narcissistic to think of the world in relation to my television program. I mean, there are strange things with this show. There were strange things with “Superman”. Absolutely 100% of this film was written and made before something happens between Israel and Palestine, and everyone continues to refuse to believe that this is not what it is. This is not the case. It’s not. You can take whatever you want, to signify what you want, but I haven’t written it to be a stand for Israel and Palestine.

Do you feel the same about this “Peacemaker” season?

I mean, you will see a few things the next episode where, of course, there are parallels. We have seen more racism lately, right? Is it because there is more racism or because it is more ok to be in the open air? It is probably the latter. It is obviously damn discouraging. And if my stupid television show has something to do with people like: “Oh, I may have to be more aware of my prejudices”, great. But that’s not what I write the show for. I write the show for the emotional angle, just as I wrote “Superman” to be on kindness. If there was a socio -political aspect of “superman”, it was that there was an absence of kindness and understanding and to love a human being, whatever their thoughts or their feelings.

Everyone is a fucking anti-hero. Everyone is too cool. What about not be cool? What about being a beautiful human being towards someone? Why is it considered to be old and Pollyanna? I want to be Pollyanna. I love this aspect of myself. I believe in the goodness of the human mind. I think a lot of people do things I don’t like, I think they are essentially good people. They just have strange ideas on things, and I think we can communicate with these people. Maybe I’m naive, I don’t know, but who I am.

This interview was published and condensed.

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